Remember when the Libyan Revolution began, China evacuated thousands of workers? (see SamHenry under China). Well, it seems that a lot of countries consider that they have a claim to Libyan oil. Here are the results of a search under “what is the Chinese claim on Libyan oil.” It is a formidable list of articles and involves examination of the role of many nations since Gaddafi’s time:
http://www.businessinsider.com/china–libya–oil-2011-8
- Aug 25, 2011 – Remember how China came away from the Iraq War with some of the most valuable oil deals? Beijing’s booty included majority ownership of …
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Libya Oil Sues Chinese Co for 2.3m Br
4 days ago – Sino had no legal mandate to do that, claimed Libya Oil. … Although the Chinese company has claimed that that the delivery documents …
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The race is on for Libya’s oil, with Britain and France both staking a …
Sep 1, 2011 – Chinese and Russian companies also had a significant presence in the … Abdeljalil Mayouf, an executive at Libyan rebel oil firm Agoco told Reuters: “We …. in Syria claim writers and actors have been arrested in Damascus …
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China in Africa: The Real Story: China’s Oil Imports From Libya
www.chinaafricarealstory.com/…/chinas-oil-imports-from-libya.htmlMar 23, 2011 – I mentioned that China’s FDI investments in Libya are not large, although China does import oil produced in Libya. But how does China …
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Libya says may give oil deals to China, India – World News – IBNLive
ibnlive.in.com/news/libya-says-may…oil…to-china…/146528-2.htmlMar 21, 2011 – Libya is considering offering oil block contracts directly to China, India and other nations it sees as friends in its month-long conflict with rebels, …
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China’s leading dam builder sued on unpaid petroleum bills | News
http://www.thereporterethiopia.com/…/chinas-leading-dam-builder… – Ethiopia5 days ago – Sinohydro Corporation Limited, a Chinese construction firm which … Libya Oil presented the alternative claim on the stated five transport …
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Gaddafi offers Libyan oil production to India, Russia, China …
english.ahram.org.eg/…/Gaddafi-offers-Libyan–oil-production-to-Ind…Mar 14, 2011 – Gaddafi,offers,Libyan,oil,production,to,India,,Russia,,China,-,Economy,-,Business.
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NATOs War on Libya is Directed against China: AFRICOM and the …
http://www.modernghana.com/…/natos-war-on-libya-is-directed-against-ch…Sep 26, 2011 – The Washington-led decision by NATO to bomb Gaddafis Libya into submission … Administration claims was a mission to protect innocent civilians. … Today China is the world’s second largest imported of oil after the United …
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Chinese investments face low risk from Libyan rebels
http://www.globaltimes.cn/…/Chinese-investments-face-low-risk-from-Liby…Sep 4, 2011 – He claimed that Libya would use oil contracts to punish China and Russia for not supporting the rebels, which drew wide attention. …
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Rebel oil firm Agoco claims all refineries in Libya … – The China Post
www.chinapost.com.tw/business/middle-east/2011/…/Rebel-oil.htmAug 29, 2011 – All five of Libya’s refineries are offline due to a lack of crude oil production and damage to facilities, the rebel oil firm AGOCO said on Saturday, …
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James Crawford
October 20, 2011
You are nailing it on the special interest involvement.
You will recall that soon after Obama signed off on the Licjerbie bomber’s release to Libyan custody, British Petroleum was granted seemingly lucrative concessions for off shore oil drilling. However; over the following months BP became disenchanted with the deal because development costs were to high. BP attempted to renegotiate the contracts, but Daffy Gadaffy chose to grant the oil concessions to China. For verification of this, take note of how many thousands of Chinese nationals were evacuated verses the hundreds of French, British and Americans.
While Iraq was a war over the threat of WMD, Libya is a war for oil.
samhenry
October 20, 2011
Right – the large numbers of Chinese evacuated are the key – they were building infrastructure. Interestingly, the Libyans did not cry to see them go. They had had enough of them from what I have read. Wasn’t it 30,000 Chinese?
samiam60
October 20, 2011
WOW, you are on cruising with the top down and your hair on fire today SamHenry. I am counting six Blog Posts so far and I have tweeted them all. I am so impressed my friend and you have blown my doors off today. WOW is all I can say.
samiam60
October 20, 2011
Wolf belly crawls back to his cave…….. 😦
samhenry
October 20, 2011
Hey – no crawling. You’ll get mange! Your stats are marvelous – you are really coming up there. I on the other hand, let things go for a time this summer. Also you have 2 blogs and 2 papers and you are on Twitter a lot. You have also got the Club and you keep us all together. You are the glue. Walk tall.
samhenry
October 20, 2011
You make me feel so good, Sami. I was just running away from my Taxes LOL. But it’s exciting to have so much material to digest and I have been following this Libyan thing for months.
James Crawford
October 21, 2011
I think you are correct about the 30,000 Chinese workers that were evacuated. Keep in mind that China quickly and efficiently evacuated this enormous number of people while the few hundred Americans in country languished on the undersized Ferry that Hillary’s travel agent had chartered. Given the discrepancy between the number of Americans that were reportedly on the Ferry verse the smaller number who finally arrived in Malta, I was expecting that hostages had been taken. I’m relieved to see I was wrong.
One salient fact is that if Chinacan evacuate 30,000 people in a week, then they have the logistics to bring in 30,000 troops. The US can still interdict them, but with China holding so much US debt that might not happen.
AFVET
October 21, 2011
You have introduced an interesting conundrum.
samhenry
October 21, 2011
I just introduce ’em, AFVET; I don’t solve ’em. But we need to discuss ’em.
samhenry
October 21, 2011
My question has always been are we now mercenaries to protect China’s interests. Think about it JC.
James Crawford
October 22, 2011
No, the US hasn’t been a mercenary to protect Chinese interests.
In spite of the “No Blood for Oil” mantra, US troops weren’t being mercenary in Iraq to protect US or Haliburton interests. The fact rhat the Iraqis were allowed to market their oil and contract for services in a free, global market that allowed China to win so much business proves that.
The US has been duped into being a mercenary in Libya, but to protect French, British and Italian interests rather than China’s. However; the same acumen and pragmatism that allowed the Chinese to win so much business from Daffy Gadaffy may allow them to win business from the new government. This will become more likely as the West finally realizes that the rebels really are Islamic extremists and that heir adoration for a homicidal maniac such as Che Hueverra who brutalized anyone who questioned his revolution is not due to any misconceptions that he was a humanitarian.
As a practical matter, if the US wants to be mercenary, we should be siezing oil from Venezualla, Mexico, Canada and Brazil because the close geographical proximity makes it so much easier to exert control and protect transit routes. Alternatively; we can abandon the Drill Nowhere, Drill Never energy policies of Obama, McCain and Romney and follow the advice of Governor Palin to develop our own energy sources. We can also build nuclear power plants to replace our coal and natural gas fired power plants so that those fossil. Fuels can be used to make synthetic transportation fuels. This will inevitably result in reduced energy prices globally, allow the US to have a trade surplus rather than a trade deficit, and give the US a competitive advantage as we try to restore the manufacturing sector of our economy. It also eliminates the temptation to engage in foreign adventures to secure our energy supply.
samhenry
October 22, 2011
JC, we never took advantage of countries with oil deposits to the extreme because at the time we contracted with them for their oil, we did not live in this changed world. We were not indebted to China in those days. Who knows what the agreements beneath the table are now. I do agree the actions taken were to protect Europe.
China had contracted with the previous government for the oil and their hope is that the new government will honor the Gaddafi contract. I believe it is a complicated picture.